Lucky or Unlucky Part 2
Part 2 address current costs of undergraduate, graduate and Law School.
I was truly stunned.
GO POKES
Per UWyo.edu, here’s some DIRECT and ESTIMATED Costs for a Undergraduate, graduate and UW Law studies degree.
Undergraduate (30 hours/yr)
RESIDENT (145/hr)
Tuition, and fees
$6362/yr
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel & Personal Expense.
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal expenses $2344
Total $15,000
Total budget $6362 + $15,000 = $21,363
$21,363/yr x 4 = $85,448
TOTAL ESTIMATES COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR IS:
$85,448
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a resident are $16,978 which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $16,978/yr x 4 = $67,912
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$67,912
CHILDREN OF UW ALUMNI ($217.50/hr)
Tuition and fees
$8537
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, & Personal Cost.
Room $3584
Meal Plan $6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
TOTAL $15,000
$8537+$15,000 = $23,537/yr
$23,537 x 4 = $94,148
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR OF A CHILD OF AN UW ALUMNUS TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR
$94,148
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a child of an UW alumnus are $19,153 which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $19,153/yr x 4 = $67,912
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$67,912
NON RESIDENT ($603/Hr)
Tuition and fees
$20,102/Yr
Room, Meal Plan, Books, Travel, & Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
Total budget $20,102 + $15,000 = $35,102
$35,102/yr x 4 = $140,402
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR IS:
$140,402
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a Non Resident is $30,718, which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $30,718/yr x 4 = $122,872
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$122,718
GRADUATE (18 Hrs)
RESIDENT ($218/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
$5076
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$5076+$15,000 = $20,076
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $20,076
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Graduate Program is $6518 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$6,518
CHILDREN OF ALUMNI (423/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
$9,056
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$9,056 + $15,000 = $24,056
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A CHILD OF A UW ALUMNI TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $24,056.
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a Child of a UW Alumnus is $9,055, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan),books/supplies travel and personal expense.
NON RESIDENTS (423/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
16,606
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$16,606 + 15,000 = $31,606
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $31,606.
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Graduate Program is $9,056 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
UW LAW (30 hours/yr) 90 hrs (3 years) to complete program.
RESIDENT (483/hr)
Tuition and fees
$15,932
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+$15,932 =$33,224
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A LAW DEGREE IN 3 YR
$99,672
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Resident to earn Law (JD) Degree is $15932 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
CHILDREN OF ALUMNI ($724.50/hr)
Tuition and fees
$23,177
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+$23,177=$40,468
$40,469/yr
$40,469 x 3= $121,407
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A CHILD OF AN UW ALUMNUS TO EARN A LAW DEGREE IN 3 YR
$121,407
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Law Degree is $23,177 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan),books/supplies,travel,and personal expense
NON RESIDENT (1030/Hr)
Tuition and fees
$32,343
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+ $32,343= $49,634
49,634/yr
TOTAL COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A JD DEGREE IN 3 YR IS:
$148,902
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Law Degree is $32,343 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Is Lucky an exception? Certainly. But it demonstrates that ‘Anything is possible in America’.
How does UW Law compare with Stanford Law?
First a disclaimer. This is a relative comparison. I want to keep this comparison as simple as possible. (This thread has turned into a at least a HS Project if not an ‘Undergraduate Project and today is GAME DAY)!
All factors (cultural, environmental, political, social, athletic programs and many others, including cuisine and/or grub) except for cost, compensation and quality of instruction
There are many sources, some contradictory and I didn’t find one source that evaluated everything I wanted to compare.
Sources used: College Simply, Stanford Law, UWyo.edu, What and ilrg.com (publiclegal). There are sure to be others and other cases can be made I’m sure.
Cost
Undergraduate 4 year BA degree
Duke. Univ of Wyoming
$79,339/yr. Resident $21,363/yr
Alumni $23,537/yr
Non Resident $35,102/yr
TOTAL over 4 Years
$320,656. Resident $85,448
Alumni $94,148
Non Resident $140,402
Law School
Note: Both Stanford Law and UW Law are designed to completed over a 3 year period.
Cost
Stanford. Univ of Wyoming Law
$104,795 Resident $33,224
Alumni $40,469
Non Resident $49,634
TOTAL over 3 years
$324,385. Resident $99,672
Alumni $121,407
Non Resident $148,902
GRAND TOTAL (For The Whole Enchilada’)
Duke & Univ of Wyoming
Stanford Resident $185,120
$645,041 Alumni $215,555
Non Resident $289,304
Anyway you look at it the Best deal cost wise between Undergrad Duke and Stanford Law and Undergrad and UW Law Is to be a resident of Wyoming and attend UW.
Next best is have a parent who is an alumnus of the University of Wyoming and it’s still a Good Deal to come from outside Wyoming to earn your JD in law. (After 7 years a student may like it so much they take the Wyoming Bar exam and stay in The Equality State and practice law.
But then again there is the subject of MEDIAN (1/2 higher 1/2 lower) compensation for 2019. (Ref ilrg publiclegal)
Stanford Law. Univ of Wyoming Law
Highest Tuition
#14. #266 (In State)
#190 (Out of State)
1st year Grad Compensation (Median)
$180,000 (#1T) $50,000 Private #177
$65,228 (#8) $60,451 (Public #29)
1sr Time Pass the Bar
95.3% (#14). 80.4% (#94)
Employment Rate.
At Graduation
88.8% (#9). 41.4 (#110)
After 10 months
90.4% (#13). 72.9 (#120)
Median LSAT
171 (#4). 153 (#115)
(OK that ‘simple research project is done. Those with students in college all ready know how expensive College is. I was stunned. Gone for ever are the days of getting a part time job to pay for Tuition. I just tried to show that fact in black and white.
GO POKES
Part 2 address current costs of undergraduate, graduate and Law School.
I was truly stunned.
GO POKES
Per UWyo.edu, here’s some DIRECT and ESTIMATED Costs for a Undergraduate, graduate and UW Law studies degree.
Undergraduate (30 hours/yr)
RESIDENT (145/hr)
Tuition, and fees
$6362/yr
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel & Personal Expense.
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal expenses $2344
Total $15,000
Total budget $6362 + $15,000 = $21,363
$21,363/yr x 4 = $85,448
TOTAL ESTIMATES COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR IS:
$85,448
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a resident are $16,978 which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $16,978/yr x 4 = $67,912
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$67,912
CHILDREN OF UW ALUMNI ($217.50/hr)
Tuition and fees
$8537
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, & Personal Cost.
Room $3584
Meal Plan $6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
TOTAL $15,000
$8537+$15,000 = $23,537/yr
$23,537 x 4 = $94,148
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR OF A CHILD OF AN UW ALUMNUS TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR
$94,148
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a child of an UW alumnus are $19,153 which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $19,153/yr x 4 = $67,912
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$67,912
NON RESIDENT ($603/Hr)
Tuition and fees
$20,102/Yr
Room, Meal Plan, Books, Travel, & Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
Total budget $20,102 + $15,000 = $35,102
$35,102/yr x 4 = $140,402
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A BA DEGREE IN 4 YR IS:
$140,402
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a Non Resident is $30,718, which doesn’t include books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Direct expenses $30,718/yr x 4 = $122,872
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$122,718
GRADUATE (18 Hrs)
RESIDENT ($218/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
$5076
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$5076+$15,000 = $20,076
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $20,076
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Graduate Program is $6518 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
TOTAL DIRECT EXPENSE
$6,518
CHILDREN OF ALUMNI (423/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
$9,056
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$9,056 + $15,000 = $24,056
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A CHILD OF A UW ALUMNI TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $24,056.
NOTE UW states Direct Expense per year for a Child of a UW Alumnus is $9,055, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan),books/supplies travel and personal expense.
NON RESIDENTS (423/Hr)
Tuition and Mandatory Fees
16,606
Room, Meal Plan, Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expense
Room $4584
Meal Plan $6032
Books $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expense $2344
Total $15,000
$16,606 + 15,000 = $31,606
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A GRADUATE DEGREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL GRADUATE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. THE ESTIMATED COST IS $31,606.
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Graduate Program is $9,056 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
UW LAW (30 hours/yr) 90 hrs (3 years) to complete program.
RESIDENT (483/hr)
Tuition and fees
$15,932
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+$15,932 =$33,224
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A RESIDENT TO EARN A LAW DEGREE IN 3 YR
$99,672
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Resident to earn Law (JD) Degree is $15932 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
CHILDREN OF ALUMNI ($724.50/hr)
Tuition and fees
$23,177
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+$23,177=$40,468
$40,469/yr
$40,469 x 3= $121,407
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR A CHILD OF AN UW ALUMNUS TO EARN A LAW DEGREE IN 3 YR
$121,407
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Law Degree is $23,177 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan),books/supplies,travel,and personal expense
NON RESIDENT (1030/Hr)
Tuition and fees
$32,343
Room, Board (Meal Plan) Books/Supplies, Travel, Personal Expenses
Room $6876
Meal Plan 6032
Books/Supplies $1200
Travel $840
Personal Expenses $2344
$17,292
$17,292+ $32,343= $49,634
49,634/yr
TOTAL COST FOR A NON RESIDENT TO EARN A JD DEGREE IN 3 YR IS:
$148,902
NOTE UW states Direct Expense for a Law Degree is $32,343 per year, which doesn’t include room, board (Meal Plan) books/supplies travel and personal expense.
Is Lucky an exception? Certainly. But it demonstrates that ‘Anything is possible in America’.
How does UW Law compare with Stanford Law?
First a disclaimer. This is a relative comparison. I want to keep this comparison as simple as possible. (This thread has turned into a at least a HS Project if not an ‘Undergraduate Project and today is GAME DAY)!
All factors (cultural, environmental, political, social, athletic programs and many others, including cuisine and/or grub) except for cost, compensation and quality of instruction
There are many sources, some contradictory and I didn’t find one source that evaluated everything I wanted to compare.
Sources used: College Simply, Stanford Law, UWyo.edu, What and ilrg.com (publiclegal). There are sure to be others and other cases can be made I’m sure.
Cost
Undergraduate 4 year BA degree
Duke. Univ of Wyoming
$79,339/yr. Resident $21,363/yr
Alumni $23,537/yr
Non Resident $35,102/yr
TOTAL over 4 Years
$320,656. Resident $85,448
Alumni $94,148
Non Resident $140,402
Law School
Note: Both Stanford Law and UW Law are designed to completed over a 3 year period.
Cost
Stanford. Univ of Wyoming Law
$104,795 Resident $33,224
Alumni $40,469
Non Resident $49,634
TOTAL over 3 years
$324,385. Resident $99,672
Alumni $121,407
Non Resident $148,902
GRAND TOTAL (For The Whole Enchilada’)
Duke & Univ of Wyoming
Stanford Resident $185,120
$645,041 Alumni $215,555
Non Resident $289,304
Anyway you look at it the Best deal cost wise between Undergrad Duke and Stanford Law and Undergrad and UW Law Is to be a resident of Wyoming and attend UW.
Next best is have a parent who is an alumnus of the University of Wyoming and it’s still a Good Deal to come from outside Wyoming to earn your JD in law. (After 7 years a student may like it so much they take the Wyoming Bar exam and stay in The Equality State and practice law.
But then again there is the subject of MEDIAN (1/2 higher 1/2 lower) compensation for 2019. (Ref ilrg publiclegal)
Stanford Law. Univ of Wyoming Law
Highest Tuition
#14. #266 (In State)
#190 (Out of State)
1st year Grad Compensation (Median)
$180,000 (#1T) $50,000 Private #177
$65,228 (#8) $60,451 (Public #29)
1sr Time Pass the Bar
95.3% (#14). 80.4% (#94)
Employment Rate.
At Graduation
88.8% (#9). 41.4 (#110)
After 10 months
90.4% (#13). 72.9 (#120)
Median LSAT
171 (#4). 153 (#115)
(OK that ‘simple research project is done. Those with students in college all ready know how expensive College is. I was stunned. Gone for ever are the days of getting a part time job to pay for Tuition. I just tried to show that fact in black and white.
GO POKES
