Cowgirls have won the first two sets against AF (25-13, -25-22). I’d love to see them out the match away in 3.

Tighter third set. Cowgirls need to pull away after the timeout.

It’s been a disappointing season for us, 8th place before tonight’s game. but it’s only Prigge’s first year. The Cowgirl’s final game of the season is at home on Saturday at 5:00 after the Hawaii football game. I hope there will be a good, supportive crowd. They play NM.

Wyo is -14! We don't cover is my feeling--

I am thinking Wyoming 27-Hawaii 21. We do not cover, but we win. Crowd smaller, but last time I was way off!

BTW-My grandsons are in town on Saturday( too young yet to take them to Laramie) so I have my 4 GREAT seats 45 yd line plus stadium parking. Rows 21 and 22-front and back to each other. $100 for all-PM me or email me at Cabocowboy22@yahoo.com. WEST SIDE lower section

What’s our ceiling in the MW?

I think we could be like Utah has been in the PAC12. That absolute pain in the ass team that you hate to play because they’re physical and fundamentally sound on all sides of the ball. They don’t recruit at an elite level, don’t have the sexiest location.

I think we are that to an extent here and there, but obviously we don’t beat the big boys and win championships. Someone can build on some of things Bohl has done, but clearly needs to take it to the next level.

Thanks to Appalachian State.

Is no longer undefeated

The UW official game site says the game is broadcast via Hawaii's Spectrum PPV. No other way to see it?

Hawaii may have the islands but we will always have Laradise!

When I enter the War every time!

You know what to do! Git ‘er done!

Go Pokes!

The 6-foot-9 2024 prospect from Ontario (Canada).

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The PAC 2, won in court today as Judge Libey in a Washington State court has ruled in their favor. Oregon State and Washington State have been ruled to have total control over the PAC conference board of directors which means in essence they have control over everything within the conference meaning the money.

Will this mean that the PAC 2 schools and the MWC will move now to complete their agreements?

Furnan next up for Cowboy basket Sunday at 8:30 am mst.

Listening to sports talk at work and apparently Logan knocked Andrews out for the year with whatever is a "hip drop" tackle; also his tackles injured Lamar Jackson's ankle and OBJ's shoulder. A literal one-man wrecking crew.

Burrow is out for the year.

Go Pokes!

CONWAY, S.C. (Nov. 17,2023) – The Wyoming Cowboys held the College of Charleston to 31.5 percent from the field and held the Cougars without a field goal for nearly the final four minutes of the game in a 67-60 at the Myrtle Beach Invitational in Conway, S.C. on Friday. Guard Sam Girffin scored 24 points in the game with 22 coming in the second half.



“It was one of those games. We knew it was gonna be a fist fight. [College of Charleston Head] coach [Pat] Kelsey and his program, there’s a reason why they’ve won a lot of games,” UW head coach Jeff Linder. “We knew that they were gonna come out, especially after a loss, and play at the standard that they play at. For us going in at half the big thing was can we learn from the Saint Louis game. In the second half against Saint Louis, our defense faltered a little bit. With our collective effort and toughness, we knew we had to exceed Charleston’s to have a chance to beat them.”



Griffin was 6-of-7 from the field in the second half and 3-of-3 from behind the arc in the frame. He was also 7-of-7 from the free throw line. Guard Akuel Kot added 10 points alongside forward Caden Powell. Powell also added seven rebounds. Guard Brendan Wenzel added four points but led the team with eight rebounds and six assists.



The Wyoming defense held Charleston to 19 percent from behind the arc going 7-of-37. The Pokes shot 54 percent from the field going 21-of-39. Wyoming shot 40 percent from behind the arc and were 19-of-25 from the free throw line for 76 percent. The Cougars held a 38-32 advantage on the glass and forced 22 Cowboy turnovers. Wyoming was great in transition with 13 points on the afternoon.



“To find a way to win that game, the only way you can do it is by getting stops and I thought our guys just did a tremendous job on a team that’s really hard to guard,” Linder said. “They got a lot of guys that can space the floor and shoot it. We found a way. It’s a make or miss game. That’s a team that’s going to shoot the ball well over the course of the season, but for right now for whatever reason their balls are not going in.”



The Cougars got off to a 6-0 lead in the opening 90 seconds of the contest. The Pokes went on a 9-0 run battling in the paint and held the College of Charleston scoreless for nearly five minutes for a 9-6 lead. C of C would then take a 12-9 lead after a 6-0 run.



Kobe Newton made a layup as part of a 6-2 run for the Cowboys to take a 15-14 lead with under nine minutes left in the opening frame. The two teams battled back-and-forth in the final nine minutes of the half until Wyoming closed out the half on a 5-0 run fueled by a Kot three pointer and a pair of free throws from Powell for a 30-25 lead at the half.



Wyoming would continue the solid defense holding the Cougars to only one bucket in the opening 3 and a half minutes and built a 33-30 lead. C of C would take a 37-35 lead on a slam with 15 minutes left in the contest.



Griffin would go on an 8-0 run himself with a three pointer and a and-one play for a 43-37 lead with 13:33 left in the contest. Wyoming would enjoy a 46-40 lead but would go scoreless for over four minutes and the Cougars went on a 7-0 run to take 47-46 lead with 8:34 remaining.



A pair of free throws from Cam Manyawu and a bucket from Oleg Kojenets made it a 51-47 game with seven minutes left. Charleston battled to tie the contest at 54-54. The Pokes would take the lead in the contest on a jumper from Griffin and a free throw from Newton with under three minutes left.



Griffin would hit a huge three pointer that gave Wyoming a 62-57 with 1:26 remaining. He added a pair of free throws for a 64-57 advantage with 37 seconds remaining. Wyoming would seal the game at the free throw line and take the 67-60 lead.



The Cougars were led by Ben Burnham with 19 points. He also added eight rebounds in the game to lead the team.



The Cowboys will face either Coastal Carolina or Furman on Sunday at 8:30 a.m. MT in a contest on ESPNU.



Wyoming Coach Jeff Linder -
“It was one of those games. We knew it was gonna be a fist fight. [College of Charleston Head] coach [Pat] Kelsey and his program, there’s a reason why they’ve won a lot of games. We knew that they were gonna come out, especially after a loss, and play at the standard that they play at. For us going in at half the big thing was can we learn from the Saint Louis game? In the second half against Saint Louis, our defense faltered a little bit. With our collective effort and toughness, we knew we had to exceed Charleston’s to have a chance to beat them. To kind of have some adversity in terms of turning the ball over 22 times, which we gotta figure out a way to cut that in half. Then, to give up 23 offensive rebounds after we gave up 22 the night before."

"To find a way to win that game, the only way you can do it is by getting stops and I thought our guys just did a tremendous job on a team that’s really hard to guard. They got a lot of guys that can space the floor and shoot it. We found a way. It’s a make or miss game. That’s a team that’s going to shoot the ball well over the course of the season, but for right now for whatever reason their balls are not going in. I know Coach Kelsey, he’ll figure that out and that’s a good team that we just beat.” (On playing in a tight game)

“That’s what happens when you play good teams in a tournament like this, it prepares you for league play. That’s what Charleston does, the grit, the toughness. You gotta find a way on a quick turnaround, which for us, I was a little concerned, just with being a new team with younger guys. Can you in a 24 hour period forget about what just happened against Saint Louis and then have the maturity and the concentration to put forth. I thought our guys did a really good job of that.” (On the play of Sam Griffin)

“I challenged Sam last night in terms of being a guy that goes from being someone that scores baskets to being a guy that can help a team win games.I thought he really stepped up. He just had that right look. I’ve been around Sam long enough now to know when he has a certain look in his eye, it’s a good thing. I thought he really responded well to the last game… For us just to see some different things against a team like Saint Louis and a team like Charleston, that we maybe don’t see in practice from an athleticism and size standpoint, it’s only going to help us moving forward.”

• Wyoming Game Notes
• Live Coverage
• Tournament Information

LARAMIE, Wyo. (Nov. 14,2023) – The Wyoming Cowboys head to the East Coast for the opening round contest of the Myrtle Beach Invitational facing Saint Louis of the Atlantic-10 Conference on Thursday at Noon in the HTC Center on the campus of Coastal Carolina. It is the first meeting between the two schools since 1954, as Wyoming will face either Vermont or College of Charleston on Friday.



Fans can listen to the contest, as well as follow stats on GoWyo.com. The game will be televised on ESPN2 and will be broadcast live on radio over the 26 affiliate stations of the Cowboy Sports Network, as Keith Kelley on the call and Kevin McKinney commentating.



About The Teams

Wyoming heads into the game with a 2-0 record after defeating Cal Poly by a score of 80-66 on Saturday. Wyoming is averaging 92 points per game are allowing 61 per contest. The Pokes are shooting 57.5 percent from the field to rank in the top-five in the nation and are shooting 48.8 percent from behind the arc that ranks seventh in the nation. Wyoming is sharing the basketball with 18.5 assists per game and are defending the rim with 6.5 blocks per contest, which ranks first in the conference.



Saint Louis is 3-0 on the season after defeating Illinois State by a score of 80-71 on Saturday. SLU also has wins over Southern Indiana and Lincoln on the season. Saint Louis is scoring 85.7 points per game and allowing 66.7 points. The Billikens are shooting 46.2 percent from the field and are holding opponents to 37.7 percent. Saint Louis records only 9.3 turnovers per game.



About The Players

Wyoming is led in scoring by guard Sam Griffin and Akuel Kot at 18.5 points per game. Griffin adds 3.5 assists per game along with three rebounds. He is shooting 667.7 percent from the field and 60 percent from behind the arc. Kot adds five assists per game and is 15-of-16 from the free throw line on the season. Forward Cam Manyawu was named the Mountain West Conference Freshman of the Week averaging a double-double with 16 points and 10 rebounds a game. He is shooting 80 percent from the field. Forward Oleg Kojenets adds 10 points per game and four blocks per game, as that number ranks in the top-five in the nationa this season.



Saint Louis is led in scoring by Terrence Hargrove Jr at 16 points per game. He also leads the team grabbing 6.7 rebounds per game. Sincere Parker is adding 15.7 points per game for the season and adds 4.7 rebounds. Gibson Jimerson records 15 points per game and is shooting 43.5 percent from behind the arc.



About The Series

The Cowboys are 1-1 all-time against Saint Louis. Each team has won contests in their home arenas, as the two teams have not met since Dec. 18, 1954.



Up Next

The Pokes will face either College of Charleston or Vermont in the second round of the Myrtle Beach Invitational on Friday with a time to be determined.

LARAMIE, Wyo. (Nov. 13, 2023) – The Wyoming Cowboys (6-4 overall, 3-3 MW) will host Hawai’i (4-7 overall, 2-4 MW) on Saturday at Noon inside War Memorial Stadium in the home finale for the Cowboys. Wyoming will look to move to 7-0 at home for the first time in program history. UW will also honor its seniors and graduate students prior to the contest.

Ticket Information
Fans may order tickets online, via email or by phone at:
•Go to GoWyo.com/tickets
•Email tickets@uwyo.edu
•Call (307) 766-7220
•Stop by the UW Athletics Ticket Office on the West Side of the Arena-Auditorium on the corner of Willett Drive and 19th Street.



Where to Watch and Listen
Every Cowboy Football game is broadcast live on the 26 affiliates of the Cowboy Sports Network. Announcers are Keith Kelley, Play-by-Play (2nd year), Kevin McKinney, Color Analyst (26th year) and Erick Pauley, Sideline Reporter (2nd year). The pregame show begins 90 minutes prior to kickoff.

Saturday's Wyoming-Hawai'i game will be televised by Spectrum Sports Pay-per-View of Hawai'i. Fans outside of Hawai'i may watch the game on the T1 Sports App. Instructions on how to watch the game may be found at the following link Here: Watch Saturday’s Game

The television announcers will be Kanoa Leahey (Play-by-play), Rich Miano (Color Analyst).



This Saturday, Nov. 18, will be a special day at the University of Wyoming as the Wyoming Cowboy Football team hosts the Hawai’i Rainbow Warriors in a Noon kickoff at Wyoming’s War Memorial Stadium. Wyoming fans can also make the day a special one for children and families in Albany County by donating to Toys for Tots prior to the game from 10 a.m. to Noon.



Wyoming and Hawai’i Will Meet for the 28th Time on Saturday and Will Play for the Paniolo Trophy for the 27th Time: Saturday’s meeting between the Wyoming Cowboys and Hawai’i Rainbow Warriors will be the 28th in history between the old rivals.

Wyoming leads the overall series 16-11 and also leads in games played between the two teams since both have been members of the Mountain West Conference. The Cowboys lead the MW series 4-3. In the previous 12 games played in Laramie, the Pokes hold an 8-4 advantage.

The Cowboys and Rainbow Warriors will be competing for the Paniolo Trophy for the 27th time. Wyoming and Hawai’i first played each other in football back on Nov. 18, 1978, with Hawai’i winning that first meeting in Honolulu by a score of 27-22. The Paniolo Trophy has been a part of the series since 1979. In the second year of the series, a group of Hawai’ian residents, with roots in Wyoming, donated a statuette of a Cowboy preparing to toss a lariat. At the time the traveling trophy was introduced to the rivalry both schools were members of the Western Athletic Conference, as Hawai’i joined the WAC in 1979. Wyoming leads the Paniolo Trophy portion of the series with 16 wins to Hawai’i’s 10 victories. The traveling trophy was named the Paniolo Trophy as Paniolo is the Hawai’ian word for Cowboy.

For the next 19 years, from 1979 to 1997, the two teams competed for the Paniolo Trophy. After Wyoming’s 35-6 win in the 1997 meeting in Honolulu, the series between the two schools ended. Due to the rotating schedule of the then 16-team WAC, Wyoming and Hawai’i weren’t scheduled to play in 1998. In 1999, Wyoming joined the Mountain West Conference, which interrupted the series for 15 years.

When Hawai’i was invited to join the Mountain West Conference, beginning in 2012, the two schools began discussion of a renewal of the Paniolo Trophy competition. But over that 15-year timespan the Paniolo Trophy was lost, which became a story in itself. Each school searched for it, but it was not to be found.

Enter a new group of Hawai’i fans to continue the tradition. The Paniolo Preservation Society, a group dedicated to preserving Hawai’i’s rich Cowboy heritage, proposed a new trophy. Led by the Society’s President, Mrs. Patricia C. Bergin, a bronze maquette, featuring Hawai’ian native Ikua Purdy roping a wild stag bull, was donated to the two schools in 2013 to mark renewal of the series. Purdy became the first Hawaiian inducted into the National Rodeo Cowboy Hall of Fame in 1999. The bronze is a reproduction of a larger work by noted western sculptor Fred Fellows. The reproduction measures approximately 20” long and 12” high.



2023 Season Could Set All-Time Attendance Record Saturday: Entering this week’s game, 143,911 Cowboy fans have attended the first six home games of the 2023 season. That is only 5,715 fans shy of breaking the all-time Wyoming single-season attendance record of 149,625 set in 1990 for a seven-game season.



Top Home Attendance Seasons in War Memorial Stadium

1. 149,625 in 1990 (7 home games)

2. 148,860 in 2016 (7 home games)

3. 144,299 in 2017 (7 home games)

4. 143,911 in 2023 (Thru 6 home games entering Saturday’s game)

5. 142,516 in 1988 (6 home games)

6. 138,042 in 2019 (6 home games)



Winning the Close Ones: Through the first 10 games of the 2023 season, Wyoming has had four of their 10 games decided by a touchdown or less and the Cowboys have won three of those four close finishes. Below is a breakdown of those close finishes in 2023.

Final Scores and

Wyoming Opponents (Date and Location) Margins of Victory

Texas Tech (Sept. 2 in Laramie, Wyo.) W 35-33, +2 (2 OTs)

Appalachian State (Sept. 23 in Laramie, Wyo.) W 22-19, +3

Fresno State (Oct. 7 in Laramie, Wyo.) W 24-19, +5

Air Force (Oct. 14 in Colorado Springs, Colo.) L 27-34, -7



John Hoyland Ranks Fifth in Career Scoring at UW: With his 55 career field goals and 109 career extra points, Cowboy junior place-kicker John Hoyland enters Saturday’s game ranked No. 5 on the Wyoming career scoring list. Hoyland has scored 274 career points at Wyoming. He is now among the five greatest kickers in Wyoming history in terms of scoring.



War Memorial Stadium Has Provided a Great Home-Field Advantage Since Stadium Opened in 1950: The Wyoming Cowboys have had a great home-field advantage since War Memorial Stadium opened in 1950. The Cowboys have won 66 percent of their home games in “The War”. Wyoming’s all-time home record in War Memorial entering this week’s game is 260-131-7 (.662). Saturday’s game will be the 399th game to be played in the stadium.

This year’s Cowboy team has built a perfect 6-0 home record. The 2023 season is the 74th season in the history of War Memorial Stadium. There have been only 14 seasons where the Cowboys have gone undefeated at home in the regular season. (The 2016 Pokes went undefeated in the regular season before hosting the first postseason game in War Memorial history -- the 2016 Mountain West Championship Game, which they narrowly lost 24-27 to San Diego State.) Entering Saturday’s game, this year’s team has an opportunity to become the 15th team to go undefeated at home. The 2023 Cowboys also have the opportunity to be the first Wyoming team to go 7-0 at home.

Came on here expecting to see some talk about tonight’s game. So decided to start the thread myself. I’m excited to see them play. Games on the MW App according to the schedule.

Pokes in the Pros: Week 10

LARAMIE, Wyo. (11/14/23) – Not long ago, Marcus Epps was patrolling the University of Wyoming secondary as a walk-on. Now, not only is he a starting safety in the National Football League, but a productive one at that.

The Las Vegas Raider has logged at least four tackles in each of his last four games. That included a five-tackle performance in the Raiders’ 16-12 victory over the New York Jets.

For the season, Epps has 44 tackles, three tackles for loss and one pass defended. He’s helped Las Vegas improve to 5-5 overall.

Epps isn’t the only former Poke making waves with his NFL franchise. Below is a list of the former Wyoming student-athletes and how they performed in Week 10.

Tyler Hall, Las Vegas Raiders

Hall enjoyed a good day in the Raiders’ 16-12 win over the New York Jets. He logged three tackles.

For the season, Hall owns 13 tackles for 5-5 Las Vegas.

The Raiders travel to Miami in Week 11.

Tashaun Gipson, San Francisco 49ers

Gipson enjoyed a mild day in the 49ers’ 34-3 victory over Jacksonville. He had one tackle and one pass defended.

For the season, Gipson lays claim to 31 tackles, one tackle for loss, one interception and two passes defended.

The 49ers host Tampa Bay in Week 11.

Logan Wilson, Cincinnati Bengals

Wilson stuffed the stat sheet in the Bengals’ 30-27 loss to Houston. He logged five tackles, 0.5 sacks, one pass defended and one quarterback hit.

For the season, Wilson has registered 70 tackles, four tackles for loss, 0.5 sacks, three interceptions, six passes defended and two quarterback hits for 5-4 Cincinnati.

The Bengals travel to Baltimore for Thursday Night Football.

Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills

Allen struggled in the Bills’ 24-22 loss to Denver. He was 15-for-26 for 177 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions. Allen also ran it four times totaling 13 yards with one score.

For the season, Allen is 246-for-350 for 2,600 yards with 19 touchdowns and 11 picks. He also has 279 yards on 48 carries with seven scores for 5-5 Buffalo.

The Bills host the New York Jets in Week 11.

Andrew Wingard, Jacksonville Jaguars

Wingard enjoyed a solid day in the Jaguars’ 34-3 loss to San Francisco. He boasted seven tackles.

On the year, Wingard owns 23 tackles, two passes defended and an interception for 6-3 Jacksonville.

The Jaguars host Tennessee in Week 11.

Carl Granderson, New Orleans Saints

Granderson continues to showcase his consistency in the Saints’ 27-19 loss at Minnesota. He logged four tackles and one quarterback hit.

For the season, Granderson owns 43 tackles, 10 tackles for loss, 5.5 sacks, 14 quarterback hits, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery for 5-5 New Orleans.

The Saints are idle in Week 11.

Chad Muma, Jacksonville Jaguars

Muma had a decent day in the Jaguars’ 34-3 loss to San Francisco. He made two tackles.

For the season, Muma has registered 15 tackles for 6-3 Jacksonville.

The Jaguars host Tennessee in Week 11.

Mike Purcell, Denver Broncos

Purcell didn’t record a stat in the Broncos’ 24-22 victory at Buffalo. On the year, he lays claim to 11 tackles, four quarterback hits and two passes defended for 4-5 Denver.

The Broncos host the Vikings in Week 11.

Can someone present an optimistic case for the program, specifically looking at the bball team.

With nil and current transfer rules, my outlook is extremely negative (coming from a die hard bball fan)… First time in 15 years, not getting season tickets.

I like some pieces on this new look team, but can we even hope to have stud players when the realistic outcome is they will move on from our program?

In the past, I woulda looked at this team as a good bet to be good in 2-3 years. Good young player potential with a mix of exciting juniors and seniors… but now???

Ultimately, is there a win scenario? If young guys are good, they leave. If they don't see playing time right away they also leave

…this also feeds into the narrative of “hard to keep a good coach.”



Sorry for the grim perspective

From coaching to poor offense to poor crappy bend but don’t break defense.

Both offenses use too much shotgun formation.

The drama in the court....this is what is taking place in the Superior Court in Washington State on Thursday, Nov. 14, 2023:

"Ten departing Pac-12 schools claim they should have a say in running the conference until they officially leave in August and Oregon State and Washington State are not entitled to seize control of “hundreds of millions of dollars” of revenue the league will earn in 2023-24.

In a filing submitted Thursday in Washington State Superior Court, the Pac-12 and the University of Washington made the case conference bylaws do not allow schools to be removed from the board of directors while still competing in the league.

“Granting OSU and WSU unilateral authority over hundreds of millions of dollars in 2023-2024 revenue needed this year to run our athletics programs would harm our universities, including our ability to provide critical resources and opportunities for our student-athletes,” the 10 departing schools said in a statement.

Washington State and Oregon State are seeking a preliminary injunction, claiming the departing members relinquished their rights to decide the long-term future of the league as soon as they announced they were leaving.

“Today’s filing is yet another attempt by the departing schools to ignore conference Bylaws and prevent OSU and WSU from exercising their right to govern the future of the Pac-12,” Oregon State and Washington State said in a statement.

The Pacific Northwest schools took the conference and Commissioner George Kliavkoff to court in September over who gets to sit on the board of directors and vote on Pac-12 business."

From what I have read and heard this is going to be a tough case for the 10 schools that left the PAC 12 because the by-laws are very clear, the past commissioner George Kliavkoff's emails support OSU and WSU's case and past precedence supports the case of OSU and WSU. These schools led by Washington are trying a very questionable trac by saying the interpretation that they themselves used with USC, UCLA and Colorado was incorrect. Also, it is very questionable to say these schools that walking into conferences that are bringing in money by the truck load will be harmed. It is just another example of these 10 schools saying, "give us a break, sure we made a mistake and precedence and by-laws that we signed are against us, but it is a lot of money, so give us some." I don't think that they will be successful, but they are trying every avenue they can.

Evidently the Univ. of Michigan has been turned in for a gambling scandal. The FBI is involved because it evidently went across state lines. There is a company called "U.S. Integrity" that evidently came across the gambling by an assistant coach in Ann Arbor through being able to pickup stuff off this guys computer showing that he is involved in gambling. This could be a HUGE thing, and you just might see one of the prince's of college football brought way down.

Bills OC down the road

Burman's dilemma has become UW's 900 lb gorilla in the room.

This is a problem that Burman made, pure and simple. He hooked the UW wagon, lot, stock and barrel and a lot of money (for us) to Bohl's wagon, and he overspent. We are now tied into a coach that has us stuck in a mediocre part of the conference and can't get himself or the program out of it. I am hoping that as some others have suggested that Bohl will retire after this season, oh yes please Bohl retire!

The UW athletic department talks about "excellence" and excellence needs the fan base to help with the expenses. The problem is that this talk of excellence has NEVER, and I do mean NEVER been shown on the football gridiron at UW during Burman's tenure as the AD. It has been over 30 years since UW last captured a football championship! On top of this, for years now we have rarely even been in the upper echelon of the MWC in the football standings and yet the Wyoming fan base has been one of the most generous group of fan bases in the MWC. What have we gotten for this investment? Zero championships, rarely do we finish in the upper echelons of the MWC, but we have some of the best facilities. I thought the facilities were supposed to allow us to bring in the type of athletes that would make us more competitive. Well, it hasn't and there does not appear to be anyone held accountable at UW for these constant failures. Yes I will call them failures if we haven't won a conference football championship in over 30 years and there is nothing on the horizon that appears to change this and our AD stays mum on everything.

Your talk of excellence upon the gridiron is hollow UW. Lately Burman has become like Howard Hughes, has anyone actually heard from Tom Burman about anything affecting the football program in years now? If my memory serves me correctly he was quoted a while back about the possible merger between the MWC and the PAC, but as usually he said nothing of consequence, just a lot of meaningless public speak. It sure does appear that Bohl is Burman's boss, instead of the other way around.